bolenbevel (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Well it is evident that you have very little knowledge of biology as your arguments simply do not hold. I studied and taught biology for little while now and would like to think I know a little bit about the subject.

andrajames (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

When I started debating this with you I assumed you were holding to overly simplistic definitions due to lack of knowledge about biology. It's now evident you hold to overly simplistic definitions in spite of an ample grasp of the subject. This in mind I should have stopped bothering to debate this long ago.Definitions words have in a particular scientific field often don't match the definitions they have in other fields or in general use.

bolenbevel (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Like I said, if you are mentally a female, then I cannot argue that. You are what you are in your own mind regardless of your genotype/phenotype. Now if you knew anything about Mendelian genetics (which you obviously do not) you would know in mammals XX=female and XY=female theres no exceptions to this rule. However it is the other way around in some fish and insects as well as in birds. I do not think you are either of those three. LOL.

andrajames (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

All irrelevant to sex if you define sex purely as whether one is XY or XX. I guess if I had a chromosome test and the result turned out to be XX then I could have turned around to people and legitimately said that I have female genitalia, and that wouldn't be misleading in the slightest. In my pants would be a big female cock.Can't possibly be genetically female and have male genitalia. That would totally break the binary!

andrajames (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

I am more than likely XY. Given the simple way you define 'male', I'm male. Oddly though, I walk around in jeans and a t-shirt and get called 'she', 'her', 'madam', etc, usually by people who consider those terms only relevant to a person who is female.

bolenbevel (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Well, I cannot argue someone being mentally female. If an individual is mentally female, then thats what they are in their own minds. However theyre living in their own world since they can never become a true female. Now if someone wants to replace their penis with a hole in which a penis can be inserted, then i suppose it is not a false hope as they are getting their wishes fulfilled. However they are still not female, but a male with a gaping hole where their penis once was.

bolenbevel (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Again, your argument is VERY WEAK!

bolenbevel (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

And no phenotype is not soley dictated by genotype. Phenotypes result from the expression of an organism's genes as well as the influence of environmental factors and possible interactions between the two. Indeed, The way genes interact with the environment is complex. One popular conceptualization is that the genotype specifies potential for a person's traits or abilities and the environment determines how fully that potential is reached. This is all irrelevant to sex.

bolenbevel (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Indeed intersex individuals do exist as they possess the both gonadal tissue types, however it all boils down to genetics in the end. You are either genetically male or female although there exists certain afflictions such as klinefelter syndrome, androgen insensitivity syndrome, and turners syndrome just to name a few, but it always goes back to genetics. .

andrajames (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Trans women generally don't want to 'become female'. They already identify as female, their sense of femaleness isn't negated by having a male body, it certainly won't be negated by the limitations of available medical treatment.