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gorgon73 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Iformation do develop, in the long run by mutations and geneduplications gone wrong. Witch in the long run (We are talking long run here) will cover for all the different gene pools we can find in nature today. Even if you were on to something, that would not at ALL be any evidence of the existance of an omniscent creator. (Just a weak spot in the evo theory, witch it aint)
at987ta (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Information never develops apart from intelligence, yet cells conain huge amounts of information. I believe this is the most important single evidence that life came from the mind of an intelligent Creator rather than from 'dumb' chemicals.
gorgon73 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
No, it does not mean that intelligence was required. You need to remember that this only needed to happened once, in billions of years. So its not a thing that needs to be easy, in fact it can be extreamly rare. Just not immpossible... See ?
abyssquick (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
no creator is implied. the notion of a creator is something unique to humans. animals cannot be trained to understand it.it is equally as incomprehensible to many many humans as well. i include myself in the latter. i have no 'god' detection device' and never have. i understand 'god' as only a culturally inherited concept.which is why we people such as us observe the natural world to determine how things work, and come to be.
damianpoirier (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
"Bible prophecy also validates God as he knows the end from the beginning- he tells us what is to happen before it happens."The bible validates the bible. Period. Just as Harry faced Lord Valdemort (as predicted in Harry Potter). I can see you don't have any problem with this. That's OK. You bible idiots even site the recreation of Isreal as god's prognostication, even though it was done on purpose to full fill the biblical prophecies. Lying for god is par for the course.
damianpoirier (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
"The simple fact that you can't go to a lab and create life of plants using 'natural' means indicates there is a God"You insult god. You equate a couple of years and a beaker of sludge with a several billion years and a couple billion billion billion planets. If I were god I'd smack you dead for making such a comparison.
at987ta (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Because intel is required. In IT it takes intel to make applications and databases try making one without analysts and programmers. Gravity does not have intel. Bible tells history and why things happened and are the way they are. Bible prophecy also validates God as he knows the end from the beginning- he tells us what is to happen before it happens. No you can't even make a bacteria in the lab. If you ground up an elephant and let it fall into a black hole life will not arise.
at987ta (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
dismissal is not refutation.No. This is empirical. Try to make something without using intelligence or something make without intelligence. This cannot be done by man. The simple fact you can't create life or planets from nothing should tell you there is a God.The simple fact that you can't go to a lab and create life of plants using 'natural' means indicates there is a God.The simple fact is creation of life requires a creator.
damianpoirier (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
"If they did manage to create synthetic life it would show that intelligence was required."Your logic is faulty.
damianpoirier (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Why believe a sentient power is necessary for the creation of our universe? Would not a self created mindless process(as brainless as gravity) be as capable of making billions of universes as some supposed mindful self created intelligent god? Where is any evidence to distinguish the two? And given billions of universes wouldn't at least one of them give rise to intelligent life? |
